March 12, 2010

 




Interview:
J.M. DeMatteis

By Dan Epstein



 

DE: Who’s the funniest League character for you?

JD: I always loved Blue Beetle.

DE: I figured it would be him or Booster Gold.

JD: It’s funny, Booster Gold was a guy from the far future but he made the same jokes as everyone else. There was something about Beetle and Booster, their friendship and banter that I really related to. I loved using the Martian Manhunter in the book and I can’t wait until he shows up with the JLA in the new series. One character Keith and I both loved, I’m sure everyone will roll their eyes, was G’Nort, the lame dog Green Lantern. He had an uncle in the Green Lantern Corps who got him in. He was just totally absurd. He was like an early Woody Allen character mixed with Ed Norton from The Honeymooners. I’ve successfully lobbied to get G’Nort in the new book.

DE: Maybe you’ll kill G’Nort?

JD: I would never do that. I would kill Superman before killing G’Nort.

DE: Are the new chocolate covered Oreos going to make an appearance? They’re really good.

JD: I’ll have to mention that to Keith.

DE: What did you think of Grant Morrison’s run on JLA?

JD: I’ve been doing this professionally for so many years that it’s almost impossible for me to read anything objectively. It’s very rare that I get engaged like I’m a twelve year old reading a comic again. Will Eisner can still do that to me. That said, if I was a twelve-year-old kid reading comic books when this book was coming out I would have thought it was the greatest superhero comic in the world. It had everything that a mainstream superhero comic should have. I thought Morrison did a fantastic job. It felt like he did it very consciously. Like he sat down and figured out what this book needed in order to get a specific reaction.

DE: I was little surprised that someone that had been in the business for as long as you have would want to write the Hal Jordan as the Spectre.

JD: I grew up with the Hal Jordan Green Lantern. That was part of my childhood. I wasn’t even aware of what they did to Hal. Those things that they did to him, like having him become a mass murderer...that was a big mistake. The stories were very well-crafted...but what were they thinking? So I heard through the grapevine that they were gong to bring Hal Jordan back as the Spectre. I didn’t get it. But then they called me up and offered me the book and the writer in me was thinking, “Well it’s a story of redemption.”I love stories about redemption. That’s my obsession. Here’s a chance to take a classic character that was so screwed over in such a distasteful way...which, no doubt, people said about my own work during the Spider-Man clone storyline...the chance to take this guy and have him do something to redeem himself. That really appeals to me.

When I spoke with the editor, Dan Raspler, I told him I wasn’t too big on these vengeance driven characters. Remember when the Spectre used to turn into a giant cheese grater and grate the villains to death? I can’t really write the Spectre as the spirit of vengeance but I will write him as the spirit of redemption. And Dan said that was exactly what he wanted to do.

I’ve had a lot of fun on this book...but the character is so convoluted, so full of backstory, that it reminds me of an X-Men book. I understand why it’s hard to please an audience with the book. You’ve got these hardcore Hal Jordan fans and they’ll buy the book but they don’t want to read about Hal Jordan seeking redemption. They want to read about Hal Jordan flying through pace having science fiction adventures the way he did in the old days. And someone who wants to pick up a mystical book about the Spectre gets all this Hal Jordan baggage. I realize that it’s a really fine line I’ve attempted to walk. I have fallen off the line sometimes but we’ve also had a chance to do some really good stuff.

The artist Ryan Sook was there for the first 13 issues and we clicked instantly. We did a few issues that really stand out to me as some of the best stuff I’ve done in the past few years. The fun of a book like this is that you can step outside the DCU and do offbeat, poetic stuff. But sometimes you have to go back in to the mainstream to please certain people, that’s why Sinestro is back. Norm Breyfogle is drawing the book now and he’s doing a terrific job. He brings great intelligence and passion to his work.

DE: How much of your own spirituality is in the Spectre book?

JD: I have to come at it from that angle. When you’re doing a book like this about a man who died and basically works for God, you have to write what you feel and what you believe. Anyone who follows my work knows that I weave in spiritual themes all the time because that’s my life. I am doing it, I hope, without proselytizing and within the context of the story. I am fallible and sometimes I fail. But I say what I feel about life, the universe and everything, within the context of this quasi-supernatural quasi-superhero comic book.

DE: You’re working on a Superman project and you’ve worked on the book in the past. What’s it like to write Superman?

JD: Things at Marvel a few years ago had gotten fairly ugly so I left Marvel to work for DC. One of the first things I did was to write a Superman story, which I had never done. And after having a horrendous year at Marvel and feeling disgusted and jaded by comic books, I found myself writing this story and the little twelve year-old in my soul thought, “Whoa, it’s Superman!” I thought it was great fun to do and that was also the first time I worked with Ryan Sook.

Then Eddie Berganza [Superman Comics Editor] asked me to work on the monthly books and I took it. It probably lasted about twenty minutes [laughs]. That was really nobody’s fault but mine. The Superman books are four very integrated books where things overlap. I found I was never getting a chance to write my own Superman story. It was like when I wrote Spider-Man, I always ended up in the Dematteisverse, doing the character my way and not getting too involved with anyone else. I did not have a good time with Superman. It wasn’t my best work by any stretch of the imagination.

After that I did a original Superman graphic novel called Superman: Where is Thy Sting? I had a lot of fun with that. Now I’m doing a book called Superman: The Kansas Sighting. It explores the whole UFO mythology in sort of an X-Files way and explores the UFO phenomenon using the work of guys like Kenneth Ring [author of The Omega Project] and John E. Mack [author of Abduction, Human Encounters with Aliens] as a jumping off point. They explore it as an evolving consciousness on the planet...sort of looking at it in a Jungian way.

Plus we get into a whole lot of Kryptonian stuff. If you were Jor-El, would you just shove your kid into a rocketship and send him off or would you send some probes first? Superman deals with the issue that his father may have been coming to Earth and abducting humans. In a medium that’s full of spaceships and big bad aliens all the time, it’s getting into it in a more metaphysical kind of way.

DE: What artist is drawing it?

JD: Jamie Tolagson, who I worked with on my Elseworlds story, Supergirl: Wings. He does truly elegant work, which you can’t say about a lot of people.

DE: You wrote one of the last Mysterio stories before Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada killed him. What did you think of that?

JD: Well you’re talking to the guy who killed Kraven the Hunter, Harry Osborn and Aunt May so I guess it doesn’t bother me.

DE: What was it like killing Aunt May? I was pretty happy about it.

JD: I really liked Aunt May. As a reader I was like, they’ve really beaten this poor woman to death anyway. But as a writer you find all these layers and levels to the characters. I fell in love with Aunt May...with the untapped depths of the character and her wonderful relationship to Peter. It’s great to build the reader’s relationship with a character, get them to see the character in new ways, and then kill them.

It was the same thing with Kraven. I always thought Kraven was one of the nerdier villains. His pants were too short and he was goofy. Then in Kraven’s Last Hunt I found this whole new way into his head. Suddenly everyone who made fun of the character freaked when he died. When we killed Aunt May, Marvel was going through a lot of changes at the time. The editor of Spider-Man at the time, my good buddy Danny Fingeroth, felt that people’s perceptions of the Spider-Man books was that nothing ever changes. All the writers felt we needed something big and killing Aunt May seemed like the right thing to do at the time. We did this big, emotional story of her death and John Romita, Sr. -- whose work I revere -- called me up to tell me the story touched him very deeply, that he actually cried when he read it. Can you imagine how that made me feel? But of course this is comic books so like a year later they brought her back.

I didn’t actually read the book where they brought her back but I’m told it was an actress disguised as Aunt May who died in Peter’s arms Explain that one to me! But that’s comics. In my mind, when I left those books that’s when Spider-Man ended. I worked on Spider-Man for many years and I just can’t look at it now. Not because I think the books aren’t good...but because I’m too emotionally attached to the version we all worked on back then.


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